268- When Your Story is No Longer a Secret with Jeff and Jourdan Johnson
Posted by: WCSG | Friday, September 25th, 2026 (12:00am)
I have been WAITING to share this episode with you all. Many of you know my story: It includes same-sex attractions and surrendering them to Jesus. I am also married to a guy. So many of you have asked for more stories of marriages where the guy has my story and is married to his wife. Today, Jeff and Jourdan Johnson are just that guy and just that wife. Together we talk about: How does their marriage work? How did it begin? How can we experience community in the midst of such a story? How did you tell your kids? (And why did you?) How did you surrender the whole thing to Jesus and not try to hyper-control the narrative? How did the other dads treat you, Jeff, after you shared? Grab an earbud or pull up a chair. This episode is for you, for someone you love, or for someone you will likely meet and care about in the future. Next Thing: Find their podcast: https://www.theopenspacescollective.com/podcast Watch the episode on YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/@wcsgradio/videos Join the HIMH Pod FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/himhpodcast/ Ask Laurie a question on IG: https://www.instagram.com/laurie_krieg/ Get a free risk assessment at O’Neill Asset Management here: https://www.oneillassetmanagement.com/index.html
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Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God – children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
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