Episode 268: When Your Story is No Longer a Secret | Jeff and Jourdan Johnson
Hole In My Heart Podcast
Friday, September 25, 2026 - 49 minutes
I have been WAITING to share this episode with you all.
Many of you know my story: It includes same-sex attractions and surrendering them to Jesus. I am also married to a guy.
So many of you have asked for more stories of marriages where the guy has my story is married to his wife. Today, Jeff and Jourdan Johnson are just that guy and just that wife.
Together we talk about:
How does their marriage work?
How did it begin?
How can we experience community in the midst of such a story?
How did you tell your kids? (And why did you?)
How did you surrender the whole thing to Jesus and not try to hyper-control the narrative?
How did the other dads treat you, Jeff, after you shared?
Grab an earbud or pull up a chair. This episode is for you, for someone you love, or for someone you will likely meet and care about in the future.
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